Friday, April 14, 2023

Abraham Bolden details a VOLCANIC ARGUMENT that Lyndon Johnson had with JFK and RFK in the Oval Office on June 29, 1961 at 7PM

Lyndon Johnson to John and Robert Kennedy, in the White House Oval Office, on Thursday, June 29, 1961 at about 7PM: "Are you bastards trying to send me to prison over some goddam cotton!!" - LBJ's opening line in a VOLCANIC ARGUMENT he had with the Kennedys at that time

 Folks, I am asking your help in preserving for the historical record this extremely important Andrew Kreig-Abraham Bolden interview that occurred on April 7, 2023. In this interview Abraham Bolden tells us something that he has never made public before: that in the evening of June 29, 1961 at 7PM he witnessed a VOLCANIC ARGUMENT in the Oval Office between Vice President Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedys (JFK and RFK). Lyndon Johnson was cursing the Kennedys and directly threatening them.

LBJ's opening line in this fierce argument was "Are you bastards trying to send me to prison over some goddamn cotton!" Remember Henry Marshall had just been murdered on June 3, 1961 and he was investigating LBJ's kickback cash cow Billie Sol Estes.

Here is the YouTube interview of the Bolden interview: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz6KsqPhEEI  This critically important anecdote of the LBJ-Kennedy fight starts  about the 22 minute and 30 second mark.

I am asking my JFK research friends to download this interview to their computers in case this ever gets erased from YouTube, the story of this terrific argument between LBJ and Kennedys.

Secondly, would you help me in posting this Bolden YouTube interview on social media such as Facebook, Twitter, Gab and everywhere else? I do not want access to this important interview to ever go away. Would you email this to your friends and help me get the word out? I only have 1,000 people on my JFK assassination email list.

Thirdly, would you post this YouTube web link on JFK assassination web sites such as Education Forum, Deep Politics forum and other places and also on the JFK assassination discussion groups on Facebook? This would be a huge help for me and many other JFK researchers and scholars.

A word from Robert Morrow:

This interview is extremely important because Abraham Bolden details a volcanic argument that he witnessed on Thursday, June 29, 1961 - around 7PM at night - between Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedys (JFK and RFK) in the Oval Office. This volcanic shouting match occurred 26 days after the June 3, 1961 murder of U.S. Agricultural Dept. official Henry Marshall who had been investigating corrupt Texas businessman Billie Sol Estes, who was nothing more than a gargantuan kickback cash cow for Lyndon Johnson. Billie Sol Estes later told an IRS investigator Walt Perry that he had given LBJ $10 million in cash which is equal to about $103 million in 2023 dollars (I used 1960 year as a base for these massive Estes to LBJ kickbacks). Please share this YouTube link around the internet to get it on the historical record because Abraham Bolden did not tell this critical anecdote in his book "The Echo from Dealey Plaza." Privately Bolden has told this LBJ-Kennedy 1961 blowout argument to multiple JFK assassination researchers who are friends with Bolden. I learned this from Hubert ""Hugh" Clark (who died in December 2020), the Navy honor guard man for JFK's casket, who was good friends with Bolden. Clark's book was "Betrayal: A JFK Honor Guard Speaks." Bottom line this Bolden interview makes news and gets on the historical record Abraham Bolden WITNESSING in person a volcanic argument between the Kennedys and LBJ in the evening of June 29, 1961 in the Oval Office. In this argument LBJ says "I ain't going to jail over no goddamn cotton." That would be in reference to the Henry Marshall investigation of Billie Sol Estes abuse of the cotton allotment program. The problem for Marshall was: if you were closely investigating Billie Sol Estes then you were also investigating LYNDON JOHNSON. The Henry Marshall June 3, 1961 murder was ruled a "suicide" and not the obvious murder it was by LBJ east Texas henchmen. In 1984 Billie Sol Estes was brought before a Robertson County grand jury where he privately corrected the record - that it was a murder orchestrated by LBJ - and the grand jury changed the cause of death of Henry Marshall to murder from suicide.

John Carman and David Zublick interview with Abraham Bolden on June 2, 2022. At the one hour 41 minute mark: https://rumble.com/v1715j7-dark-outpost-live-06.02.2022-the-echo-from-dealey-plaza.html

Abraham Bolden on June 2, 2022 told John Carman and Dark Outpost host David Zublick about a VOLCANIC ARGUMENT that he heard between Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedys in the Oval Office on June 29, 1981. This interview was about a year before the monumental Andrew Kreig interview of Bolden on Friday, April 7, 2023 about this same topic.

Folks, I want to thank you guys for posting around the internet links to the the 4/7/2023 Andrew Kreig interview of Abraham Bolden in which he recounts a VOLCANIC ARGUMENT between Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedys in the Oval Office on June 29, 1961. This occurred 26 days after the LBJ-orchestrated murder of U.S. Agricultural official Henry Marshall on June 3, 1961. Henry Marshall was investigating gargantuan LBJ cash cow Billie Sol Estes and if you were investigating Estes, by definition you were investigating LBJ. I personally think that Billie Sol Estes and his brother were involved in the murder of Henry Marshall, upon the orders of LBJ. In other words, despite the words of Estes, I don't think Mac Wallace murdered Henry Marshall. I think this was a deflection from Estes.
 
The June 3, 1961 obvious murder of Henry Marshall was ruled a suicide by LBJ henchmen in Robertson County. One June 5, 1961 Abraham Bolden went to work at the White House. He lasted only one month. 

Abraham Bolden did not include this explosive anecdote in his book The Echo From Dealey Plaza. It think it was just too hot to handle even 50 years later. I found out about this from multiple friends of Abraham Bolden about 3 years ago - Phil Singer, Hubert Clark and former Secret Service agent John Carman who were all good friends with Bolden. I need to point out that in addition to Andrew Kreig in April of this year, Bolden has told this story to John Carman and David Zublick on June 2, 2022. 
 
Bolden says the name "Estes" came up in this explosive argument that he heard and that LBJ was accusing the Kennedys of trying to send him to prison over "some goddamn cotton." Estes was being investigated for his abuse of the cotton allotment government program. Here is the John Carman interview from June 2, 2022: 

John Carman and David Zublick interview with Abraham Bolden on June 2, 2022. At the one hour 41 minute mark: https://rumble.com/v1715j7-dark-outpost-live-06.02.2022-the-echo-from-dealey-plaza.html

Henry Marshall bio at Spartacus https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmarshallH.htm 

The liberal Texas Observer wrote about the Henry Marshall murder in 1986.

“The Killing of Henry Marshall,” Texas Observer 11-7-1986, Texas Observer - "The Killing of Henry Marshall," by Bill Adler 11-07-1986 http://issues.texasobserver.org/pdf/ustxtxb_obs_1986_11_07_issue.pdf Marshall’s obvious murder ruled a suicide by LBJ operatives 

Also, from Judyth Vary Baker on April 23, 2023: "Abraham Bolden personally shared this information [the 1961 volcanic argument LBJ had with the Kennedys] with me over a decade ago, in the presence of researcher Phil Singer, a mutual friend of ours." 

https://radiopatriot.net/2023/04/22/volcanic-argument-between-jfk-lbj/#comment-43654

Finally, there is a THIRD JFK researcher, a friend of Bolden's, who has him on videotape recounting the same explosive argument between LBJ and the Kennedys in the Oval Office on the evening of June 29, 1961. That videotape was made before the June, 02, 2022 John Carman interview of Bolden and before the April 7, 2023 interview of Bolden by Andrew Kreig.

I am asking people to post the web links of these interviews around the internet and to contact mainstream media journalists to write articles on this blockbuster LBJ-Kennedy anecdote from June 29, 1961.

Blockbuster Phil Singer March, 2020 interview of Abraham Bolden on LBJ's VOLCANIC ARGUMENT with the Kennedys in June, 1961

Web link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_XTAJOtAlI  


Folks, I assume many of you know Phil Singer who is one of the more respected and  longtime JFK assassination researchers. Phil Singer knew Mark Lane and he has made it a point of his to know many of the critical JFK assassination witnesses. For example, Phil Singer discovered JFK honor guard member Hubert Clark who later wrote the book Betrayal - about how the casket he was guarding was empty when it was supposed to have had JFK's body in it.

Phil Singer lives in Chicago and he is a long time friend of ABRAHAM BOLDEN like many of you are. For years Abraham Bolden was sitting on a very important and critical anecdote about a VOLCANIC ARGUMENT between Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedys that occurred on June 29, 1961. LBJ's explosive behavior was so threatening that Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden reported Lyndon Johnson as a security threat to the life of President Kennedy to the director of the Secret Service Urbanus Baughman (born 1905-1978), who later retired on August 31, 1961 and was replaced by the execrable James Rowley who later helped to cover up the JFK assassination for Lyndon Johnson.

Privately, over the years, Abraham Bolden has shared this story with many of his JFK assassination researcher friends, but publicly he kept a lid on it until the 2022 John Carman interview of Bolden

Abraham Bolden did NOT include this critical LBJ anecdote in his book The Echo From Dealey Plaza and the reason for that is not something that I know. I think that it was so explosive, so sensitive that if Bolden had told it publicly it might have negatively affected his chances for a presidential pardon and maybe Bolden thought no one would believe it.

In March of 2020, Phil Singer got Abraham Bolden to do a PRIVATE VIDEOTAPED INTERVIEW that was supposed to be released after the death of Abraham Bolden, who is now age 88. Well, a good thing happened Abraham Bolden decided to go public about this story in interviews with John Carman in 2022 and later with Gil Jesus (January, 2023) and Andrew Kreig (April 7, 2023). Therefore, Phil Singer is releasing his 2020 Bolden interview because, very thankfully, the cat is out of the bag on LBJ's scary 1961 threats to the Kennedys in the Oval Office.

Abraham Bolden worked as a Secret Service agent for only one month - from June 5, 1961 to about July 4, 1961. The date of the LBJ explosion was Thursday evening, June 29, 1961.

All of these collectively are extremely important videotaped interviews with Bolden about this blockbuster anecdote involving the deranged and hateful Vice President Lyndon Johnson.

Sincerely,

Robert Morrow          512-306-1510     Austin, TX

Presidential Historian and Distinguished Fellow at the Lyndon Baines Johnson Institute for the Study of Presidential Crime

The World’s Foremost Authority on the JFK Assassination

The Top Historian in the World on Lyndon Johnson (sorry Robert Caro, it is not you …)

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The files of Lyndon Johnson's secretary Mildred Stegall prove that LBJ was aware and supportive of the FBI's effort to destroy Martin Luther King

 NYT Guest Essay: The Man Who Knew Exactly What the F.B.I. Was Doing to Martin Luther King Jr.

April 12, 2023

Web link https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/12/opinion/lyndon-johnson-martin-luther-king-jr.html?smid=tw-share

By Jonathan Eig and Jeanne Theoharis

Mr. Eig is the author of “King: A Life,” a forthcoming biography of Martin Luther King Jr. Ms. Theoharis is the author of “The Rebellious Life of Mrs. Rosa Parks,” which has been adapted for a documentary.

We have long known about the F.B.I. director J. Edgar Hoover’s animus toward the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Hoover built an extensive apparatus of surveillance and disruption designed to destroy King and to drive a wedge between King and President Lyndon Johnson.

But historians, journalists and contemporary political leaders have largely portrayed Hoover as a kind of uncontrollable vigilante, an all too powerful and obsessive lawman, and Johnson as a genuine civil rights partner until King broke with the president over the Vietnam War. In reality, as new documents reveal, Johnson was more of an antagonist to King and a conspirator with Hoover than he has been portrayed.

By personalizing the F.B.I.’s assault on King, Americans cling to a view of history that isolates a few bad actors who opposed the civil rights movement — including Hoover, Gov. George Wallace of Alabama and the Birmingham lawman Bull Connor. They thus fail to acknowledge the institutionalized, well-organized resistance to change in our society. Americans prefer a version of history in which most decent people did the right thing in the end.

It’s time to move past that comfortable story and recognize the power structure that supported the F.B.I.’s campaign. Many Americans — starting with the president — thought movement activists like King posed threats to the established order and needed to be watched and controlled. Members of the press could have exposed the bureau’s campaign. And many government officials who could have stopped, curtailed or exposed the F.B.I.’s attack on King instead enabled or encouraged it.

F.B.I. records declassified in the past several years and documents from the Johnson archives released in 2022 force us to reconsider the nature of Johnson’s involvement in the F.B.I.’s campaign against King. The White House documents — part of a huge cache of F.B.I. memos that has only begun to see daylight — suggest that Johnson, from the beginning of his presidency in 1963 to King’s assassination in 1968, was apprised almost weekly by Hoover himself on the F.B.I.’s surveillance of King.

Johnson did nothing to stop or rein in the F.B.I., even after at least one top administration official expressed concern. In all likelihood, that was because Johnson saw strategic advantage in knowing about King’s activities as he worked with King on civil rights legislation, and perhaps he saw even more utility when King began to criticize the president’s policies, especially concerning the Vietnam War. At the same time, according to the president’s aides, Johnson clearly enjoyed having access to the prurient details of King’s life.

Both Johnson and Hoover seemed to take personal offense at King’s audacity to criticize the federal government and the F.B.I. Johnson had a close relationship with Hoover before he became president, often using the bureau to vet his Senate staff. Both men understood the value of gathering inside information on rivals, and Johnson, more than most presidents, used the bureau for this. Hoover liked being of service to the president. Hoover gave the Johnsons a beagle puppy, and the Johnsons named the pet J. Edgar. (The dog was eventually renamed Edgar.) Hoover was also indebted to Johnson for protecting him from the requirement to retire at age 70.

Since last year’s release of hundreds of pages from the files of Mildred Stegall, Johnson’s closest personal aide and longtime administrative assistant, a more nuanced — and damaging — picture of the partnership between Johnson and Hoover has emerged. The sheer volume of these memos to the president — more than 250 over five years — further demonstrates Johnson’s intimate familiarity with the F.B.I.’s campaign.

Ms. Stegall joined Johnson’s Senate staff in 1956. In the White House, she assumed custody of many of Johnson’s personal financial and campaign files when another aide, Walter Jenkins, left the White House in 1964. She later became the primary liaison between the White House and the F.B.I. After Johnson had the opportunity to read the pages (and he probably didn’t read them all), Ms. Stegall locked them in a vault that also contained Johnson’s personal business papers, as well as the tapes Johnson made of his own telephone conversations, which were made public years ago. In other words, the president and the director of the F.B.I. had established a protocol for private and immediate communication.

Hoover used the F.B.I. assistant director Cartha DeLoach as his special liaison to the White House. In a memo dated Jan. 14, 1964, Mr. DeLoach wrote to Hoover to say that Mr. Jenkins had read the most recent report on King “word for word,” considered it “one of the most repulsive incidents that he knew of” and planned to tell Johnson about it later the same day. According to the memo, Mr. Jenkins told Mr. DeLoach “that the F.B.I. could perform a good service to the country if this matter could somehow be confidentially given to members of the press.”

Mr. DeLoach told Mr. Jenkins that Hoover already “had this in mind” but planned to “obtain additional information prior to discussing it with certain friends.” The F.B.I. also fed Johnson a steady diet of information on King’s conversations with his top advisers, gleaned from telephone wiretaps and microphones planted in hotel rooms, that the president could use in managing his relationship with King.

Soon after Mr. DeLoach’s memo, journalists at many of the nation’s biggest news outlets — including The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Chicago Daily News, Newsweek and The Atlanta Constitution — were handed salacious files about King’s extramarital affairs and presented with lists of questions the F.B.I. wanted reporters to ask King. These reporters have gotten a lot of credit for not publishing the prurient details of the F.B.I.’s surveillance, but at the same time, none of them chose to report that the F.B.I. was conducting a ‌massive‌ surveillance campaign against law-abiding American citizens.

In addition to the president and the media, other officials at the F.B.I. — acting independently of Hoover although no doubt with the hopes of pleasing their boss — worked to ruin King. Scores of ranking officials and agents at the F.B.I., dozens of elected officials and several informants embedded in King’s inner circles knew what was going on, and none, as far as the public records indicate, blew a whistle on the campaign.

Throughout 1964, generally considered the high point of the King-Johnson partnership, Hoover apprised Johnson of King’s travel, his associates, the protest strategies King was considering, which government officials had contacted King and private things King had to say about Johnson and his administration. Hoover reported on an administration official who wanted King to participate in a memorial to President John Kennedy, what King planned to say to the Republican platform committee, how the civil rights leader was considering a fast around the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party challenge and a host of other pieces of political surveillance. When an F.B.I. wiretap picked up Coretta Scott King complaining with her husband that they had not yet received congratulations from the White House on his Nobel Prize, Hoover reported the conversation to Johnson.

Today, many of the memos Hoover sent to Johnson might be described as opposition research. They show that even as Johnson and King worked together, King was still treated as an adversary to be managed and controlled.

The surveillance continued until King’s death on April 4, 1968: On April 1, Hoover wrote to Ms. Stegall to say the president might want to be aware that King and his closest adviser, Stanley Levison, had been discussing Johnson’s re-election campaign and that King said Robert Kennedy, in his Democratic primary bid, “is the only man that can stop President Johnson.”

Hoover believed that Communists exerted influence on King, and he drove F.B.I. agents to find ties. But people with past Communist ties were everywhere in the 1960s, as Hoover and Johnson knew. The issue of Communist influence, in the end, served mostly to justify the campaign to undermine King. Hoover, who referred to King as “the burrhead,” hated to see King earn respect and gain influence, especially as he learned the details of King’s personal life, and he became determined to use those details to undercut King’s reputation.

Fundamentally, Hoover’s campaign revolved around power — making sure King didn’t have too much of it. After witnessing King’s success at the March on Washington in 1963, William Sullivan, the F.B.I. assistant director responsible for the domestic intelligence division under Hoover, made the decision to bug King’s room at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C. “We must mark him now,” Sullivan wrote in a 1963 memo, “as the most dangerous Negro of the future in this nation.” Less than two months later, Robert Kennedy, then the attorney general, signed off on the decision to wiretap King’s home and offices.

F.B.I. officials supplied journalists with files containing evidence gathered from listening devices planted in King’s hotel rooms. But no journalist at a major publication exposed what the F.B.I. was doing. In fact, it wasn’t until March 8, 1971, when activists broke into an F.B.I. office, took files, copied them and sent them to two members of Congress and three newspapers that the public began to get a sense of the extent of the bureau’s surveillance of King and other activists. Even then, while The Washington Post courageously decided to publish the story, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times and both representatives sent the files back to the F.B.I.

Clearly, Hoover did not act alone. In fixating on Hoover, we ignore the phalanx of informed government officials, from the president on down, and let the broader American public and media off the hook. We overlook that most Americans did not approve of the civil rights movement while it was happening — just before the March on Washington, a Gallup poll found that only 23 percent of Americans had favorable opinions of the proposed rally. Seeing the civil rights movement as dangerous was not a fringe position.

These revelations do not diminish Hoover’s core responsibility in one of the most troubling episodes in American law enforcement history. Rather, they show the widespread support for and complicity in the campaign against King, and as such they should force a re-examination of the conditions that led so many Americans to turn their backs on one of our great moral leaders. To take that seriously requires a broader reckoning about how the government, the media and the public react to those who challenge the status quo.

“The course of the civil rights movement may have been altered” by the F.B.I.’s campaign against King, wrote Ramsey Clark, Johnson’s third attorney general. “The prejudice may have reached men who might otherwise have given great support — including even the president of the United States.”

It surely did, as King understood all too well.

“Let’s face it,” King said in a phone call to Mr. Levison days before his assassination. “We do have a great public-relations setback where my image and leadership are concerned.” He added, “It will put many Negroes in the position of saying, ‘Well, Martin Luther King is at the end of his rope.’”

Tragically, we know exactly how King felt, because the F.B.I. recorded his call.

 

Jonathan Eig is the author of the forthcoming book “King: A Life.” Jeanne Theoharis is the author of “The Rebellious Life of Mrs. Rosa Parks,” which has been adapted for a documentary.

 

 

 

Monday, April 3, 2023

1967 - Jim Garrison was privately telling people in New Orleans that Lyndon Johnson was involved in the JFK assassination

 

Early 1967: Jim Garrison was privately telling people around New Orleans that that the JFK assassination could be “traced back” to Lyndon Johnson or that LBJ could be “found in it someplace.” Source Hale Boggs as told by Attorney General Ramsey Clark to LBJ on Feb. 20, 1967

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/06/the-assassination-tapes/302964/

 

Actually you can hear the Feb. 20, 1967 LBJ-Ramsey Clark conversation


https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/secret-white-house-tapes/conversation-ramsey-clark-february-20-1967  (Check and see if this audio web link is working. It was not working in early 2023 but I have been told that the glitch has been fixed.) 


You can also hear the Feb. 20, 1967 LBJ-Ramsey Clark conversation on this website:

http://impiousdigest.com/dumbfucks/ Scroll down the page to the 1967 LBJ-Ramsey Clark conversation – Jim Garrison was saying LBJ was involved, not Hale Boggs who had told Jim Garrison that the Warren Report was garbage. Author Joan Mellen had found out by talking to Jim Garrison’s wife Phyllis that it was Rep. Hale Boggs and not Sen. Russell Long who cued Jim Garrison into knowing there was a dead rat in the JFK assassination official story.

 

Interestingly, this critical conversation between LBJ and Ramsey Clark is not on the internet at the Miller Center: https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/secret-white-house-tapes/conversation-ramsey-clark-february-20-1967

 

The topics of the conversation were “Jim Garrison Investigation of JFK Assassination, Drew Pearson, Fidel Castro and Jimmy Hoffa”

 

[“The Assassination Tapes,” Max Holland, The Atlantic, June, 2004.

 

QUOTE

 

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 1967, 9:40 A.M.

Call to Acting Attorney General Ramsey Clark

 

    CLARK: I think that what he [Jim Garrison] is workin' on must be the associations that Oswald had in the three or four months that he was down there [in New Orleans] in '62 [and] '63. I doubt ... I think it'd just be incredible if he [Garrison] had anything that went beyond that. I think this subject is so volatile and emotional, though, that it could get confused and obscured.

 

[Uncomfortably and hesitantly] I had heard that Hale Boggs was sayin' [that] he—Garrison—was sayin' that ... or privately around town [was saying] that it [the assassination] could be traced back [to you] ... or that you could be found in it someplace, which ... I can't believe he's been sayin' that. The Bureau says they haven't heard any such thing, and they got lots of eyes and ears.

 

'Course, that was a [credible] fella like Hale Boggs. But Hale gets pretty emotional about people [like Garrison] that he really doesn't like, and people who have fought him and been against him, and I would be more inclined to attribute it to that. Either that, or this guy Garrison [is] just completely off his rocker.

 

JOHNSON: Who did Hale tell this to?

 

CLARK [somewhat in disbelief]: Apparently Marvin [Watson].1

 

JOHNSON [aside to Watson, who was in the room]: [Did] Hale tell you that—Hale Boggs—that this fella [Garrison, this] district attorney down there, said that this is traced to me or somethin'?

 

WATSON: Privately he [Garrison] was using your name as having known about it [the assassination]. I said [to Boggs], Will you give this information to Barefoot Sanders?2 Ramsey was out of town—this was Saturday night. [Boggs] said, I sure will. So I asked the operator to get Barefoot and Ramsey together, and they did.

 

JOHNSON [to Clark]: Yeah, I don't know about it. They don't ever let me in on it, Marvin and Jake [Jacobsen] over here, so you have to call me direct.3

 

CLARK: Well—

 

JOHNSON: They just think this stuff's for them.

 

CLARK: Such nutty things that ... it's awfully explosive but ... The press, really, has quite a jaundiced eye about it ... and about Garrison, so far.4 I had several press interviews out in Des Moines [on] Saturday evening and afternoon, and the thrust of their questions is, What kind of nut is this?

 

UNQUOTE