Friday, February 14, 2025

David Atlee Phillips 7/1/86 letter to Vincent Bugliosi. Phillips later admitted to his brother that he was involved in the JFK assassination

 

Spartacus Educational Bio on CIA's David Atlee Phillips, a man who admitted to his brother just before he died that he was involved in the JFK assassination - https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKphillips.htm  













David Atlee Phillips on Lee Harvey Oswald and his supposed Mexico City trip:

(My take: I believe Oswald was in Mexico City, and I think Phillips is covering up his connection to Oswald)

CIA Mexico City David Atlee Phillips: "- when the record comes out, we will find that there was never a photograph taken of Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City. We will find out that Lee Harvey Oswald never visited, let me put it, that is a categorical statement, there, there, we will find out there is no evidence, first of all there was no proof of that. Second there is no evidence to show that Lee Harvey Oswald visited the Soviet Embassy." [1987 CA debate, quoted in Mark Lane’s Plausible Denial.]

From “The Night Watch; 25 Years of Peculiar Service”, David Atlee Phillips :

"Tomorrow morning, gentlemen," Dulles said, "we will go to the White House to brief the President. Let's run over your presentations." It was a warm summer night. We drank iced tea as we sat around a garden table in Dulles' back yard. The lighted shaft of the Washington Monument could be seen through the trees. . . .

Finally Brad (Colonel Albert Haney) rehearsed his speech. When he finished Alien Dulles said, "Brad, I've never heard such crap." It was the nearest thing to an expletive I ever heard Dulles use. The Director turned to me "They tell me you know how to write. Work out a new speech for Brad...

We went to the White House in the morning. Gathered in the theater in the East Wing were more notables than I had ever seen: the President, his Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of State - Alien Dulles's brother, Foster - the Attorney General, and perhaps two dozen other members of the President's Cabinet and household staff....

The lights were turned off while Brad used slides during his report. A door opened near me. In the darkness I could see only a silhouette of the person entering the room; when the door closed it was dark again, and I could not make out the features of the man standing next to me. He whispered a number of questions: "Who is that? Who made that decision?"

I was vaguely uncomfortable. The questions from the unknown man next to me were very insistent, furtive. Brad finished and the lights went up. The man moved away. He was Richard Nixon, the Vice President.

Eisenhower's first question was to Hector (Rip Robertson): "How many men did Castillo Armas lose?" Hector (Rip Robertson) said only one, a courier... . Eisenhower shook his head, perhaps thinking of the thousands who had died in France. "Incredible..."

Nixon asked a number of questions, concise and to the point, and demonstrated a thorough knowledge of the Guatemalan political situation. He was impressive - not at all the disturbing man he was in the shadows.

Eisenhower turned to his Chief of the Joint Chiefs. "What about the Russians? Any reaction?"

General Ridgeway answered. "They don't seem to be up to anything. But the navy is watching a Soviet sub in the area; it could be there to evacuate some of Arbenz's friends, or to supply arms to any resisters."

Eisenhower shook hands all around. "Great," he said to Brad, "that was a good briefing." Hector and I smiled at each other as Brad flushed with pleasure.

The President's final handshake was with Allen Dulles. "Thanks Allen, and thanks to all of you.

You've averted a Soviet beachhead in our hemisphere." Eisenhower spoke to his Chief of Naval Operations "Watch that sub. Admiral. If it gets near the coast
of Guatemala we'll sink the son-of-a-bitch. ' The President strode from the room.



CIA David Atlee Phillips: "My final take on the assassination is there was a conspiracy, likely including American intelligence officers."

 

 David Atlee Phillips, just before his death, to Kevin Walsh, an investigator with the HSCA. Phillips died in July, 1988. Source: Larry Hancock, the author of Someone Would have Talked.

 

Phillips: “My private opinion is that JFK was done in by a conspiracy, likely including American intelligence officers.” 

 

Said to Kevin Walsh, former HSCA staffer who later became a private detective. Phillips comment was made in July, 1986

[Larry Hancock, Someone Would Have Talked, p. 152]

 

Larry Hancock comment on the David Phillips comments and his conversations with Shawn Phillips, the nephew of David Phillips – posted on Education Forum 8/27/2023

 

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29563-larry-hancock-and-david-attlee-phillips/

Larry Hancock:

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OK Eddy, you certainly have my attention...grin.  Actually this discussion raises the opportunity for some remarks about attribution and context that should be considered first in these discussions. 

First off, Phillips remark to the committee staffer was made casually, he appears to have had a good relationship with Walsh and Phillips was never shy about expressing an opinion.  We don't know the exact context of that remark but we do know that the source, the date and we have a quote to work with.  We also know that during the HSCA period Phillips was working on a manuscript (fictional) which would also have connected an Oswald operation to the CIA.  Its pure speculation, but his remark, the manuscript etc could have been attempts to shift attention from him personally and towards CIA activities going on around Oswald - something there is good reason to suspect that Phillips would have known about.

Given that Phillips actually wrote more books than Night Watch and that he put in the statement that Oswald did take a money to kill JFK from the Cubans in the Consulate (the story he and the MC station pushed days after the assassination) we can probably assume he knew enough about bogus stories in MC and the cover up of a variety of actions against the Cubans and the diplomatic facilities to be aware that some games were in play during the period of Oswald's appearance there - but that he also realized there were things going on he didn't understand, and which were suspicious.

Its also important to remember that Phillips actually called out David Morales (by nick name not true name) as a really badass dirty actions operator (which is interesting since Phillips did not have that much personal contact with Morales and against the fact that Morales was in staff positions, not normally in back alleys - regardless of being a badass), Morales got so upset he went to the CIA and wanted to charge Phillips with violating his privacy (Phillips had even directed a reporter to him) and there was no love lost between the two at that point.  Which might imply that Phillips had some suspicion of Morales - interesting because one of their few operational linkages had to do with a mission to bring Castro's sister out of Cuba on November 22, something which aborted but something that did involve both Morales and Sforza. 

On the second point related to attribution and context, the remark was second hand from Phillip's nephew (who I did communicate with on multiple occasions) so context there is important.  This was a death bed event where Phillips was literally dying and all his brother had to say to him was to ask him about JFK...and he didn't even ask him that outright, as I understand it he asked his brother if David had been in Dallas.  And David refused to answer him.  Personally at that point if I am dying and all my brother has to say is that- well I suspect I would hang up (well perhaps there would be other words but not about Dallas). So from the context  its always been hard for me to see that as a confession.

Hope some of that helps the discussion,  Larry

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Excellent Paul Bleau PDF file on the links of David Atlee Phillips to the JFK assassination:

Web link: https://www.kennedysandking.com/images/2018/bleau-mechanism/bleau-phillips.pdf

David Atlee Phillips – excellent Spartacus bio: https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKphillips.htm

A dying David Atlee Phillips admitted to his brother Jim that he had been in Dallas on 11/22/63

What he is really admitting to is involvement in the JFK assassination.

 

Shawn Phillips is the nephew of David Atlee Phillips and the son of James Atlee Phillips:

Email from Shawn Phillips to Gary Buell in January, 2003:

The "Confession", you refer to was not in so many words as such. I cannot remember the time frames involved, but this was what was told to me by my father, James Atlee Phillips, who is deceased. He said that David had called him with reference to his (Davids), invitation to a dinner, by a man who was purportedly writing a book on the CIA. At this dinner, was also present a man who was identified only as the "Driver". David told Jim that he knew the man was there to identify him as Raul Salcedo, whose name you should be familiar with, if your research is accurate in this matter. David then told Jim that he had written a letter to the various media, as a "Preemptive Strike" , against any and all allegations about his involvement in the JFK assassination. Jim knew that David was the head of the "Retired Intelligence Officers of the CIA", or some such organization, and that he was extremely critical of JFK, and his policies. Jim knew at that point, that David was in some way, seriously involved in this matter and he and David argued rather vehemently, resulting in a silent hiatus between them that lasted almost six years according to Jim. Finally, as David was dying of irreversible lung cancer, he called Jim and there was apparently no reconciliation between them, as Jim asked David pointedly, "Were you in Dallas on that day"? David said, "Yes", and Jim hung the phone up.

Web Link: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4681
Shawn Phillips is a musician. This is his website: http://www.shawnphillips.com
His family tie to David Atlee Phillips is explained here: http://www.shawnphillips.com/james.html
Internet Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/19991014015111/http://www.shawnphillips.com/james.html

David Atlee Phillips in his book Secret Wars Diary (1989), in a footnote:

“I was an observer of Cuban and Soviet reaction when Lee Harvey Oswald contacted their embassies.” David Atlee Phillips died on July 7, 1988.

 

David Atlee Phillips wrote some extremely interesting “fiction” about Lee Harvey Oswald – see the excellent blog post by Peter McLachlin

 

https://peter-mclachlin.livejournal.com/22594.html - Very good blog post by Peter McLachlin (9-9-2008) on David Atlee Phillips and E. Howard Hunt

 

Peter McLachlin

 

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For this sentence alone Philip Atlee deserves an enduring spot in the annals of American pulp fiction:

"My rectal sphincter throbbed again, all I needed, and I said 'nuts to you' and locked my bowels."

 

— Philip Atlee, The Fer-De-Lance Contract

 

James Atlee Phillips (pen name Philip Atlee) whose "Contract" series of books was comprised of 22 novels about counter-intelligence agent Joe Gall. Gall, a so-called "nullifier," is sent by a secretive U.S. government agency to trouble spots around the globe in order to solve—that is, erase—the problem. Somewhat surprisingly, Raymond Chandler wrote of him: "I admire Philip Atlee's writing enormously, the hard economy of style, the characterisations, and the interesting and varied backgrounds."


But there are reasons outside of his writing that make it worth remembering Philip Atlee. For starters, there was more than one pulp novelist in the Atlee Philips family. James Atlee Phillips was the brother of well-known CIA officer David Atlee Phillips, long-rumoured to be an organizing force behind the assassination of JFK. 

In 1978, David Atlee Phillips published a novel about political assassins entitled The Carlos Contract: A Novel of International Terrorism. And then things get more interesting... here are a couple of tantalizing quotes from the Web page http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKphillips.htm:

 

First, David Atlee Phillips, who died of cancer on July 7, 1988, left behind an unpublished manuscript entitled The AMLASH Legacy, a novel about a CIA officer working at the Mexico City station in 1963.  From the novel:

 

I was one of the two case officers who handled Lee Harvey Oswald. After working to establish his Marxist bona fides, we gave him the mission of killing Fidel Castro in Cuba. I helped him when he came to Mexico City to obtain a visa, and when he returned to Dallas to wait for it I saw him twice there. We rehearsed the plan many times: In Havana Oswald was to assassinate Castro with a sniper's rifle from the upper floor window of a building on the route where Castro often drove in an open jeep. Whether Oswald was a double-agent or a psycho I'm not sure, and I don't know why he killed Kennedy. But I do know he used precisely the plan we had devised against Castro. Thus the CIA did not anticipate the President's assassination but it was responsible for it. I share that guilt.

  

There’s also a January, 2003 e-mail by James Atlee Phillips’ son (the folk rock singer Shawn Phillips) to JFK assassination researcher Gary Buell:

The "Confession", you refer to was not in so many words as such. I cannot remember the time frames involved, but this was what was told to me by my father, James Atlee Phillips, who is deceased. He said that David had called him with reference to his (Davids), invitation to a dinner, by a man who was purportedly writing a book on the CIA. At this dinner, was also present a man who was identified only as the "Driver". David told Jim that he knew the man was there to identify him as Raul Salcedo, whose name you should be familiar with, if your research is accurate in this matter. David then told Jim that he had written a letter to the various media, as a "Preemptive Strike," against any and all allegations about his involvement in the JFK assassination. Jim knew that David was the head of the "Retired Intelligence Officers of the CIA", or some such organization, and that he was extremely critical of JFK, and his policies. Jim knew at that point, that David was in some way, seriously involved in this matter and he and David argued rather vehemently, resulting in a silent hiatus between them that lasted almost six years according to Jim. Finally, as David was dying of irreversible lung cancer, he called Jim and there was apparently no reconciliation between them, as Jim asked David pointedly, "Were you in Dallas on that day"? David said, "Yes", and Jim hung the phone up.


The final word on pulp fiction, the CIA and JFK’s murder must make mention of E. Howard Hunt, CIA operative and Watergate “plumber,” who was undoubtedly the greatest writer of pulps (47 novels under his own name and a number of pen names) of any government agency, ever. In January 2007, while on his deathbed, Hunt allegedly confessed to having extensive foreknowledge of the JFK assassination, implicating Lyndon Johnson and the CIA.

 

Here’s an excerpt from William F. Buckley’s obituary of Hunt:

 

I remember with sad amusement an earlier experience of Hunt's with the law, this time involving his novels. Allen Dulles, then head of CIA, called him in one day and said, Howard, I know the rules are that this office has to clear all manuscripts by our agents. But you write so many, you're wearing us out. So go ahead and publish your books without our clearance, but use a pseudonym.

 

Hunt handed me his latest book, "Catch Me in Zanzibar," by Gordon Davis. I leafed through it and found printed on the last page, "You have just finished another novel by Howard Hunt." I thought this hilarious. So did Howard. The reaction of Allen Dulles is not recorded.

 

In a 2004 audio recording Hunt named fellow pulp novelist David Phillips as a participant in the JFK assassination:

 

I heard from Frank [Sturgis] that LBJ had designated Cord Meyer, Jr. to undertake a larger organization while keeping it totally secret. Cord Meyer himself was a rather favored member of the Eastern aristocracy. He was a graduate of Yale University and had joined the Marine Corps during the war and lost an eye in the Pacific fighting.

 

I think that LBJ settled on Meyer as an opportunist like himself and a man who had very little left to him in life ever since JFK had taken Cord's wife as one of his mistresses. I would suggest that Cord Meyer welcomed the approach from LBJ, who was after all only the Vice President at that time and of course could not number Cord Meyer among JFK's admirers—quite the contrary.

 

As for Dave Phillips, I knew him pretty well at one time. He worked for me during the Guatemala project. He had made himself useful to the agency in Santiago, Chile where he was an American businessman. In any case, his actions, whatever they were, came to the attention of the Santiago station chief and when his resume became known to people in the Western hemisphere division he was brought in to work on Guatemalan operations.

Sturgis and Morales and people of that ilk stayed in apartment houses during preparations for the big event. Their addresses were very subject to change, so that where a fellow like Morales had been one day, you'd not necessarily associated [sic] with that address the following day. In short, it was a very mobile experience.

 

Let me point out at this point, that if I had wanted to fictionalize what went on in Miami and elsewhere during the run up for the big event, I would have done so. But I don't want any unreality to tinge this particular story, or the information, I should say. I was a benchwarmer on it and I had a reputation for honesty.

 

I think it's essential to refocus on what this information that I've been providing you — and you alone, by the way — consists of. What is important in the story is that we've backtracked the chain of command up through Cord Meyer and laying [sic] the doings at the doorstep of LBJ. He, in my opinion, had an almost maniacal urge to become President. He regarded JFK, as he was in fact, an obstacle to achieving that. He could have waited for JFK to finish out his term and then undoubtedly a second term. So that would have put LBJ at the head of a long list of people who were waiting for some change in the executive branch.

 

One can’t help wondering if these dead pulp novelists would have proven to be less dangerous if they had had less of the pulp novelistic imagination in them: history could have been significant;y different but for these CIA officers and operatives adhering to a "boy’s own adventures" credo of live by the pulps, die by the pulps. It seems fitting that Hunt may one day be best remembered through the portrayal of him by one of JFK's greatest admirers, Norman Mailer, in his 1991 novel Harlot's Ghost.

Some of E. Howard Hunt’s book covers:

 

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Web link http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/experts/phil-shenons-cruel-shocking-misinterpreation/#more-19123

 

“I was one of the two case officers who handled Lee Harvey Oswald. After working to establish his Marxist bona fides, we gave him the mission of killing Fidel Castro in Cuba. I helped him when he came to Mexico City to obtain a visa, and when he returned to Dallas to wait for it I saw him twice there. We rehearsed the plan many times: In Havana Oswald was to assassinate Castro with a sniper's rifle from the upper floor window of a building on the route where Castro often drove in an open jeep. Whether Oswald was a double-agent or a psycho I'm not sure, and I don't know why he killed Kennedy. But I do know he used precisely the plan we had devised against Castro. Thus the CIA did not anticipate the President's assassination but it was responsible for it. I share that guilt.”

- David Atlee Phillips, 'The AMLASH Legacy'. A Novel by David Atlee Phillips. [David Atlee Phillips was a Central Intelligence Agency officer of 25 years and a recipient of the Career Intelligence Medal. Phillips rose to become the CIA's chief of operations for the Western hemisphere]

 

 

 

Dan Ryan email (8-14-2022) to Robert Morrow on the topic of David Atlee Phillips chain smoking while giving HSCA testimony to Richard Sprague

 

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Good day Robert,

Sometime ago I mentioned that David Atlee Phillips had smoked 3 cigarettes whilst under cross examination by relentless Sprague, who hunted down the CIA. You asked for proof, quite rightly.

Now I have it.

 

Book: The Kennedy Conspiracy, Anthony Summers

Page 511

 

“When David Philips testified under oath to the Assassinations Committee, he denied ever having used the name Bishop and said he had never heard the name used by a CIA employee, His testimony did not convince his audience. Phillips reacted to unexpected questions by lighting a second cigarette, moments after his first. On one occasion, lit a third while the first two smouldered in the ashtray. Most seriously Phillips gave contradictory and inaccurate testimony”.

 

My notes, “soon after Blakey dismissed Sprague under pressure from the CIA.”

 

Kind regards,

Dan

 

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CIA media asset Hugh Aynesworth denied to Robert Morrow on Oct. 26, 2013 that he had any relationship with CIA David Atlee Phillips

 

Hugh G. Aynesworth and the Assassination of JFK - Page 7 - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum (ipbhost.com)

 

I spoke to Hugh Aynesworth yesterday (10/26/13) at the Texas Book Festival in Austin, TX. In the Q&A I asked Hugh specifically about:

the CIA report written on October 10, 1963 when J. Walton Moore, the head of the Dallas CIA Domestic Contacts Division reported to the Chief of the Contact Division on “the possibility of Hugh Grant Aynesworth making a trip to Cuba.”[4]

I read that passage and then asked Aynesworth if he had ever been a CIA media asset, had he ever received any money or compensation from the CIA.

Aynesworth said that he had been to Cuba in 1962, and that is expertise was covering the military and that in order to get to Cuba then one had to go through the Czechoslovakian embassy. He said that he got a call from some CIA guy named "Walton Moore" who offered to help out and because Aynesworth was expert on military affairs could he see what the Cubans had as far as military capacity, count things etc.

Aynesworth said that he had never received any money or compensation at all from the CIA.

Later, as he signed my book, I asked Aynesworth if he had ever had any conversations with the CIA's David Atlee Phillips. He said he had never talked to David Atlee Phillips, had not met him, did not have any relationship with David Atlee Phillips.

The Association of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO) was created by a man who was deeply involved in the JFK assassination: David Atlee Phillips https://www.afio.com/01_about.htm

Our History

During the 1970s the Intelligence Community was buffeted by a number of leaks and revelations, culminating in the Church and Pike Congressional investigations. CIA officer David Atlee Phillips took early retirement in 1975 to respond to the growing sentiment that the CIA was a “rogue elephant.” As part of this effort, Phillips founded this organization, known then as the Association of Retired Intelligence Officers (ARIO). Although much attacked at the time when many people called for the dismantlement of the CIA, Phillips toured the world to speak out in favor of the need for a strong intelligence community. He was subsequently personally accused of being a participant in the Kennedy and Letelier assassinations. He successfully sued several publications for libel, retractions were issued and monetary damages awarded. Phillips donated some of these proceeds to ARIO for the purpose of creating a legal defense fund for American intelligence officers who felt they were the victims of libel. This defense focus was later moved to a separate group called Charter, which disbanded in the early 1980s, and AFIO's focus narrowed to public education within its 501(c)3 charter.

The first ARIO convention was held in September 1975, and the organization defined its purpose to explain to the nation the function of intelligence and what intelligence officers can and cannot do. From the very beginning it sought to reach out to teachers and students across the country as well as to the media, through publications, such as Periscope and through periodic luncheons. These early efforts have grown into the robust academic outreach and support programs present today, including scholarships, civic outreach, a variety of print and online publications and media fora, an annual symposium as well as the quarterly luncheons featuring senior officials from the Intelligence and Policy Communities, authors and media representatives.

In 1978 the name of the organization was changed to Association of Former Intelligence Officers to reflect a pool of members who were not necessarily retired, which widened the pool of eligible members and reflects the current dynamic membership. From its inception in Dave Phillips’ living room and a few hundred members in 1975, AFIO has grown to over 5000 members, with 24 active chapters across the United States.

AFIO is more than a professional or fraternal organization. Its distinguishing mission is educational...to reach out to the public and explain what intelligence organizations do, and to build a nation-wide constituency for intelligence as a profession. In many ways, AFIO is the public face of the Intelligence Community.

 CIA David Atlee Phillips told former HSCA investigator Kevin Walsh that the JFK assassination “was a conspiracy, likely including American intelligence officers”

Web link https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKphillips.htm

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According to Larry Hancock, the author of Someone Would Have Talked, just before his death Phillips told Kevin Walsh, an investigator with the House Select Committee on Assassinations: "My final take on the assassination is there was a conspiracy, likely including American intelligence officers." (Some books wrongly quote Phillips as saying: "My private opinion is that JFK was done in by a conspiracy, likely including rogue American intelligence people.")

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Unpublished Novel by CIA David Atlee Phillips had this revealing nugget about the CIA and Lee Harvey Oswald

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When he died on 7th July, 1988, Phillips left behind an unpublished manuscript. The novel is about a CIA officer who lived in Mexico City. In the novel the character states: “I was one of those officers who handled Lee Harvey Oswald… We gave him the mission of killing Fidel Castro in Cuba… I don’t know why he killed Kennedy. But I do know he used precisely the plan we had devised against Castro. Thus the CIA did not anticipate the president’s assassination, but it was responsible for it. I share that guilt.”

[Here is a footnote: https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKphillips.htm ]

Alpha 66 Leader Antonio Veciana stated that his CIA contact Maurice Bishop was in fact David Atlee Phillips

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Antonio Veciana on Nov. 22, 2013

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Dear Marie Fonzi:

You may publish the following statement from me:

“Maurice Bishop, my CIA contact was David Atlee Phillips. Phillips or Bishop was the man I saw with Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas on September 1963.”

Best Regards,

Antonio Veciana

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  • David Atlee Phillips AKA Michael C. Choaden AKA Maurice Bishop (Operación 40 assassin/ Fair Play For Cuba Committee infiltration commander/ Deputy Chief of Cuban Covert Operations, CIA Mexico City Station/ CIA liaison, Dirección Federal de Seguridad/ CIA liaison, Project LIHUFF)






Saturday, February 8, 2025

Walkie Talkie Man's Hand Signals are Absolute Proof of a Shooter on the Grassy Knoll and Absolute Proof of a Conspiracy in the JFK Assassination

"Walkie Talkie Man" was a spotter for a shooter or shooters of JFK who were standing behind the stockade fence on the the Grassy Knoll and Absolute Proof of a Conspiracy in the JFK assassination. Walkie Talkie Man's hand signals that quickly changed from a camouflaged clenched fist in front of his stomach to a right arm held high with the hand flat and open are absolute proof that Walkie Talkie Man was a spotter for a sniper or snipers (plural) who were 50 yards behind him and in position behind the stockade fence on the Grassy Knoll. Here is why:

1) "Walkie Talkie Man" - sometimes known in JFK assassination literature as "Dark Complected Man" or "Radio Man" is a dark skinned man, wearing a beret and having on his possession a walkie talkie which would be very unusual for an innocent spectator in the crowd to have.

2) Walkie Talkie Man has never been identified in the now 62 years (2025) following the JFK assassination. This is quite unusual because the vast majority of the people around JFK as he was being murdered HAVE been identified. Many of them have talked to reporters and JFK assassination researchers. For almost all the people at Dealey Plaza at the moment of murder of JFK, the JFK assassination was a life changing experience and so many of these people have told their friends and families what it was like when they were there for a presidential assassination.

3) Walkie Talkie Man is standing on the gutter IN THE STREET unlike all the other spectators to JFK's death. All the other spectators are standing on the sidewalk or on the grass or are in a car. Walkie Talkie man is clearly standing OFF OF THE CURB and in the side gutter of Elm Street. This too is highly suspicious.

4) Here is the the most important thing to notice about Walkie Talkie Man: as JFK's limo approaches, Walkie Talkie Man has his right arm crooked at a right angle and he is BALLING HIS RIGHT FIST CLOSE UP TO HIS STOMACH - and that is because he will very soon be using a hand signal to call for snipers to shoot JFK. Walkie Talkie Man is hiding his fist in front of his stomach because 50 yards behind him are snipers on the Grassy Knoll who are waiting for Walkie Talkie Man to give a silent hand signal to shoot JFK. That hand signal will be a raised open hand. 

5) In a photo taken mere seconds after Walkie Talkie Man's hand was in a tightly closed fist in front of his stomach we now see Walkie Talkie Man with his his right hand HELD HIGH and it is a FLAT OPEN HAND. When JFK is seen in the Zapruder Film with his right arm held high, JFK has already been shot in the throat from the front. This is absolute proof that Walkie Talkie Man is a spotter for snipers whose signal to shoot JFK was his right arm held high with his hand open.

 6) JFK is shot in the throat around Zapruder Film frame #219. The photo of Walkie Talkie Man holding his balled, clinched fist in front of his stomach was taken no more than 1 to 2 or 3 seconds before JFK is shoat in the throat. And the photo of the Zapruder Film that shows JFK shot in the throat and the Walkie Talkie Man's right arm held high was taken at Zapruder Film frame #226.

Any shooters behind the stockade fence on the Grassy Knoll would have been directly behind the back of Walkie Talkie Man, which is intentional because Walkie Talkie Man was hiding his hand signal to kill JFK until he raised his right arm high - which meant Fire Upon the Target President Kennedy!

The Zapruder Film is 26.6 seconds long and it is composed of 486 frames. There are approximately 18.3 frames per second in the Zapruder Film.

There you have it: Walkie Talkie Man's hand signals are absolute proof that he was a spotter who job was to alert snipers on the Grassy Knoll to shoot and kill President John Kennedy. Because we know that both JFK and Texas Gov. John Connally were shot in the back (with separate bullets!) we have absolute proof that there was a conspiracy in the JFK assassination because we now have 100% proof that there were a sniper or snipers on the Grassy Knoll. 

All the 486 frames of the Zapruder Film are located here Zapruder Frames - Costella Combined Edit























Was Felipe Vidal Santiago – Dark Complected Man in the JFK assassination?

 

Involvement of the Secret Service - Page 6 - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum


Man” or “Dark Complected Man” is obviously a spotter for snipers on the Grassy Knoll who shot JFK almost immediately when he gave the hand signal to do so.

Walkie Talkie Man, aka Dark Complected Man, has never come forward and has never been identified despite the vast majority of the crowd in Dealey Plaza having been identified. This is suspicious in and of itself.

You can read more at this web link: The JFKA as an Informal Operation, and Six Seconds - Page 2 - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum

Good Video on Walkie Talkie Man aka Dark Complected Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olJl3JJeFqU

Tuesday, January 14, 2025

2025 Blockbuster revelation: Cliff Carter, LBJ's longtime political director, believed that Lyndon Johnson orchestrated the murder of John Kennedy!

 Key Takeaway: CLIFTON CARTER, LBJ'S LONG TIME HENCHMAN, BAG MAN & POLITICAL DIRECTOR, BELIEVED THAT LYNDON JOHNSON MURDERED JOHN KENNEDY!! Source: 1971 audiotape with Billie Sol Estes





Cliff Carter was a very close personal friend of Lyndon Johnson from 1937 to his death in 1971. That is 34 years of friendship.

Cliff Carter on Find-A-Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/82571286/clifton-crawford-carter  

See the Billie Sol Estes/Clifton Carter tape as featured on the Alex Jones Show on X: https://x.com/realalexjones/status/1879312259349930294?s=42 

This tape, and I am 99% sure it is totally legit, obviously had to be made before the death of Cliff Carter, which I think occurred in 1971 - Sept. 22nd, 1971 at the age of 53. Cliff Carter had worked for LBJ since 1937 when a 28 year old Lyndon Johnson got himself elected to Congress in a special election. Cliff Carter was age 19 in 1937 when he worked for LBJ's golden debut congressional campaign.

Partial transcript of Billie Sol Estes-Cliff Carter 1971 audiotape (tape provided by Shane Stevens)

 Here is the audiotape at three different places on the internet:

1) https://old.bitchute.com/video/5lvYvtbhZgoq/

2) https://x.com/realalexjones/status/1879312259349930294?s=42

3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc3V5Mou2w0

 

[ A friend gushing about JFK expert Robert Morrow: "Found it online! Btw: thank you for your incredible service to the JFK assassination research community. Seriously. It amazes me how quickly you locate good material and then share it with the rest of us." ]

In the name of that spirit, here's a partial transcript of Shane Stevens’ tape of his grandfather, Billie Sol Estes, talking with Clifton “Cliff” Carter (LBJ’s fixer and the former executive head of the DNC) in 1971:

 Transcript of part of the 1971 Billie Sol Estes/Cliff Carter tape:

 Estes: “Sure good to see you. How’s life treating you today?”

 Carter: “Well, Sol, it’s been a pretty touch and go situation. Lyndon and I have had quite a few unpleasant words here lately over the deal that he hired Mac Wallace to assassinate the president. It’s been hectic in every way, but uh we’ve lived through it this far, and I guess we’ll continue to do so. Uh, Lyndon should have never issued that order to Mac, but we’ve had our differences and I’m true blue to Lyndon as I’ve always been and tried to carry out every order that he’s ever given me. But this is one I’ll probably never be able to forget. And the times that we’ve had in Texas and the embarrassment that Lyndon had gotten from the Kennedy—I guess there wasn’t anything else to do but what he did.

 Estes: “Well, you know Lyndon (inaudible)…”

 Carter: “Well, Lyndon’s the kind of person that doesn’t want to help anyone. He’s all for Lyndon, and that’s pretty much the way he’s always been.”

 

Estes: “Well, they had me backed up on that Henry Marshall killing and they just kinda blackmailed me to keep my mouth shut and if I hadn’t had a bunch of tapes that I played after he got killed—cuz you know 17 got killed in this situation very mysteriously—and I’ve spent a lot of time and I’ve lost a lot of money and he’s hurt my family a whole lot and it’s really got me just disgusted with Lyndon in one way and in one way I feel real sorry for him. But I really feel that in Lyndon’s heart, he felt like he was doing the right thing. He felt like he was the savior of the common man. I feel like in his heart he wanted to help people (inaudible)…I don’t believe that anything (inaudible)…sanctioned all the killings that he has done. What do you think about it, Cliff? Do you think it could’ve been handled in any way without killing all of these people and got rid of the Kennedys? Do you think he would’ve won the election against him?”

 Carter: “Well, I don’t really believe so. You know he tried desperately to do just that, and there didn’t seem to be any other way. I know that he regrets a lot of the things that he has done, but still, it has been a battle from day one…”

 UNQUOTE


NYT obituary on the passing of Cliff Carter:


Cliff Carter has a son named LYNDON CARTER who currently lives in Austin, TX.

Cliff Carter - Spartacus bio - Clifton C. Carter

2010 John Delane Williams blog post on Billie Sol Estes and Cliff Carter: John Delane Williams Blog: Estes Named Cliff Carter as the Master Strategist in JFK Assassination

Cliff Carter mentioned on a Wikipedia post of Malcolm Wallace: Malcolm Wallace - Wikipedia



Cliff Carter, LBJ's political director, was on the Air Force One flight from Dallas after Lyndon Johnson had just murdered John Kennedy. Cliff Carter is on the far right. Standing next to him is Cong. Jack Brooks. Standing next to Cong. Jack Brooks is Cong. Homer Thornberry who was a man also very close to Lyndon Johnson.



Billie Sol Estes on left and LBJ's political director Cliff Carter on right




Cliff Carter died in September of 1971




LBJ's political director Cliff Carter



Cliff Carter, on left, was in WWII as a soldier

1/15/25 Matt Armstrong thanking Robert Morrow for his service to the JFK assassination research community.

 Partial transcript of Billie Sol Estes-Cliff Carter 1971 audiotape

 Here is the audiotape:

 https://old.bitchute.com/video/5lvYvtbhZgoq/

 https://x.com/realalexjones/status/1879312259349930294?s=42

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc3V5Mou2w0

 Found it online! Btw: thank you for your incredible service to the JFK assassination research community. Seriously. It amazes me how quickly you locate good material and then share it with the rest of us. In the name of that spirit, here's a partial transcript of Shane Stevens’ tape of his grandfather, Billie Sol Estes, talking with Clifton “Cliff” Carter (LBJ’s fixer and the former executive head of the DNC) in 1971:

 Estes: “Sure good to see you. How’s life treating you today?”

 Carter: “Well, Sol, it’s been a pretty touch and go situation. Lyndon and I have had quite a few unpleasant words here lately over the deal that he hired Mac Wallace to assassinate the president. It’s been hectic in every way, but uh we’ve lived through it this far, and I guess we’ll continue to do so. Uh, Lyndon should have never issued that order to Mac, but we’ve had our differences and I’m true blue to Lyndon as I’ve always been and tried to carry out every order that he’s ever given me. But this is one I’ll probably never be able to forget. And the times that we’ve had in Texas and the embarrassment that Lyndon had gotten from the Kennedy—I guess there wasn’t anything else to do but what he did.

  Estes: “Well, you know Lyndon (inaudible)…”

 Carter: “Well, Lyndon’s the kind of person that doesn’t want to help anyone. He’s all for Lyndon, and that’s pretty much the way he’s always been.”

 Estes: “Well, they had me backed up on that Henry Marshall killing and they just kinda blackmailed me to keep my mouth shut and if I hadn’t had a bunch of tapes that I played after he got killed—cuz you know 17 got killed in this situation very mysteriously—and I’ve spent a lot of time and I’ve lost a lot of money and he’s hurt my family a whole lot and it’s really got me just disgusted with Lyndon in one way and in one way I feel real sorry for him. But I really feel that in Lyndon’s heart, he felt like he was doing the right thing. He felt like he was the savior of the common man. I feel like in his heart he wanted to help people (inaudible)…I don’t believe that anything (inaudible)…sanctioned all the killings that he has done. What do you think about it, Cliff? Do you think it could’ve been handled in any way without killing all of these people and got rid of the Kennedys? Do you think he would’ve won the election against him?”

 Carter: “Well, I don’t really believe so. You know he tried desperately to do just that, and there didn’t seem to be any other way. I know that he regrets a lot of the things that he has done, but still, it has been a battle from day one…”

 UNQUOTE


Sincerely, 

Robert Morrow      Austin, TX  512-306-1510  (landline)

You can add Cliff Carter, who was a top level friend of LBJ for 34 years to this impressive list of people who believed Lyndon Johnson murdered JFK:

Kennedys, Nixon, Goldwater, KGB, Civil Rights leaders, LBJ insiders, Texas liberals, Secret Service all believed LBJ murdered JFK

https://robertmorrowpoliticalresearchblog.blogspot.com/2023/10/paul-landis-day-after-jfk-assassination.html

Cliff Carter’s secretary Edna Moelhman said that Cliff Carter “worked himself to death for Lyndon Johnson.”

 Robert Caro referred to Cliff Carter as one of LBJ’s “right hand men.”

 

Grok on Cliff Carter:

 The term "right hand" to describe Cliff Carter's relationship with Lyndon B. Johnson was used by various people in historical accounts and biographies. However, one of the most notable references comes from:

  • Robert A. Caro in his Pulitzer Prize-winning biography series on Lyndon Johnson, particularly in "The Years of Lyndon Johnson: The Passage of Power." Caro refers to Carter as one of Johnson's "right-hand men" in detailing Carter's role and influence in Johnson's political operations.

 Additionally, this characterization has been echoed by other historians and journalists when discussing the inner workings of Johnson's political circle, though Caro's work is among the most cited and authoritative on this subject.

 In "The Passage of Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson, Volume IV" by Robert A. Caro, he refers to Cliff Carter as one of Lyndon Johnson's "right-hand men" on page 40:

 "Clifton C. Carter, one of his right-hand men, who had been with him since his first run for Congress in 1937, was his executive assistant."

This citation is based on the information available from the web results and the context provided by Robert Caro's detailed exploration of Johnson's political life.

 Grok on Cliff Carter

 Clifton Crawford "Cliff" Carter was a significant figure in American political history, known primarily for his close association with Lyndon B. Johnson. Here is an overview of his life and career:

 Early Life and Education: Cliff Carter was born on August 2, 1918, in Smithville, Texas. He attended Schreiner Institute in Kerrville before transferring to the University of Texas at Austin, where he was involved in football.

Military Service: During World War II, Carter served as a lieutenant colonel in the Army, spending 30 months overseas with the Texas National Guard's 36th Infantry Division. He was decorated with the Legion of Merit, the Bronze Star, and the Croix de Guerre.

Political Career: Carter's political journey began in 1937 when he started working as a volunteer for Lyndon Johnson's first campaign for a seat in the Texas House. Over the years, he became an integral part of Johnson's political operations:

  • Assistant and Aide: Carter worked with Johnson in various capacities, including during Johnson's time in the House of Representatives and the Senate.

  • Campaign Manager: He played a crucial role in Johnson's campaigns, notably during the 1960 presidential campaign where Johnson was the vice-presidential nominee.

  • Democratic National Committee: After Johnson became President, Carter served as the executive director of the Democratic National Committee from 1965 to 1966. He was also its treasurer in 1966. However, he resigned to return to private business in Texas, reportedly frustrated with some of the tasks he was assigned.

Post-Political Career: After leaving the DNC, Carter moved into the investment business, serving as a counselor for several concerns while also engaging in private work.

Death: Clifton C. Carter passed away on September 21, 1971, in Arlington, Virginia, at the age of 53, following a brief illness. His long-time secretary, Edna Moelhman, remarked that he "worked himself to death for Lyndon Johnson."

Legacy and Controversies: Carter's association with Johnson also linked him to some of the controversies of the era. For instance, he was mentioned in discussions around the assassination of John F. Kennedy, though these claims are largely speculative and not backed by conclusive evidence. His involvement in fundraising for Johnson and managing political strategies made him a pivotal figure in Johnson's presidency.

Carter's life was deeply entwined with Lyndon Johnson's political career, making him one of the key architects behind the scenes during Johnson's rise to power and his time in the White House. His dedication to Johnson was noted by many, reflecting both his loyalty and the demanding nature of political life at the highest levels.

 

LBJ would call Billie Sol Estes at 1AM in the morning, tell him to get the banker out of bed, get a lot of money then fly down to the LBJ Ranch with it immediately – says Shane Stevens, grandson of Billie Sol Estes.

 https://cairnsnews.org/2025/01/15/trump-made-aware-of-tapes-proving-lbj-conspired-to-kill-kennedy/

 By MICHAEL SLOVANOS

THE grandson of Texas cotton king Billie Sol Estes has just released the tapes his grandfather used as insurance against the business/political mafia of Lyndon Baines Johnson (aka LBJ). The tapes prove Johnson colluded with the deep state in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

Clifton C. Carter

Shane Stevens appeared on Alex Jones’ show this week explaining how his grandfather became entangled with the LBJ political machine, which carried out a series of killings against people who knew too much.

President-elect Trump is expected to declassify all documents around the JFK assassination, which will reverberate through America’s establishment. The tapes will confirm the truth of Johnson’s role and those of other players.

Stevens grandfather lived a reasonably long life until 2012-13, because he had kept the tapes in his possession. Estes was a multi-millionaire who dominated the cotton growing business, often employing shady land deals with farmers so he could sidestep federal anti-trust laws.

The tape is a conversation in 1971 between Estes and Clifton C. Carter, LBJ’s right hand man. The two whimsically recall their times with LBJ and Carter mentions he had quote “unpleasant words with LBJ over the deal to hire Mac Wallace to assassinate the president … Lyndon should never have issued that order to Mac”.

The “LBJ-style” was revealed earlier in the story of Estes, LBJ and Carter meeting on 17th January, 1961, to discuss what to do about Henry Marshall, who was investigating Estes on behalf of the federal agriculture authorities. Marshall refused attempts to be blackmailed by Johnson with a promotion to Washington. At the meeting Johnson said: “It looks like we’ll just have to get rid of him.” Wallace, who Estes described as a hitman, was given the assignment.

Marshall was later found dead on his ranch after being shot in the back with his own rifle. The sheriff reported it as suicide. Estes says on the tape that 17 people had been murdered on Johnson’s orders.

After the JFK assassination, which involved several shooters at ground level around Daley Plaza, LBJ asked the FBI to investigate Estes, who was eventually prosecuted and jailed on multiple fraud charges, which ruined his and his family’s reputation and destroyed their business empire. Este’s assets of $200 million were sold for $7 million.

“I’m trying to restore honour to the family name by living a good life …. we lived with this when my grandad came out of jail,” Stevens told Jones. He hoped the release of the tapes would help heal America of the Kennedy killing.

“I hope this is a healing point for our nation …. to put it in perspective its two of LBJ’s most trusted confidants speaking,” he said.

Stevens said he didn’t understand the gravity of the tapes until he and his sister took them to a company to get them transcribed. Company representatives were alarmed by what they heard and tried to tell Stevens it was just conspiracy material.

Stevens attempted to warn Trump about the situation in 2016 and eventually got the tapes to him. “Our modern day concern is if I’m right, we are going to be attacked by the same people,” he said. “I made sure Trump got the tape I tried to warn him back in 2016.”

 Stevens’ said the first time he ever heard his grandad’s story was through Roger Stone’s book The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ.


“The biggest implication of this is, if they got away with this in the 1960s, if they killed the president, covered it up across multiple agencies, then where are those people, how did they do it – they’re ultimately still there in some way, shape or form in some capacity,” Stevens told Jones.

“And so at this point all I’ve done is share this tape with a few people – in fact a lot of the people who are fighting hardest for our country have heard this tape – they listened to it shared the background history with them. To my knowledge President Trump has heard, Don Junior has heard it ….”

Stevens also explained it was not a happy relationship between LBJ and the Kennedys who didn’t want LBJ as Vice President. “The Kennedy’s emasculated him in office. They shut him down. But big Texas money didn’t want him shut down.”

He said there was “this crazy dynamic working against JFK” and a big power struggle going on involving the big Texas companies like Brown and Root, and Haliburton with much associated fraud and corruption.

“LBJ would call Billie at 1am to go out get some money, and Billie would wake up the banker, get the money then hop in a plane with the money and go up there.”

Johnson was the consumate power broker with dirt files on many politicians and officials such as J Edgar Hoover, who was caught cross dressing.

Cliff C Carter died in 1971, reportedly two to three days after the recording was made. It was supposedly recorded in a small house near Abelene. “These were “insurance” tapes. Ultimately if he was going to get killed, he would release them,” said Stevens.